[FSFLA] my proposal to Mozille: InterNet, the Inter-connection of local Net-works

[willi uebelherr]

Dear Quiliro

Global coordinate systems

Maybe, we have some misunderstandings.

Latitude means the equator with his parallel circles. We use only the 
equator.
Longitude means the circles through the poles. We use only the circle in 
our latitude position.

But i think we mean the same.

Community Server Space

We have our personal, individual needs, our group/community needs and 
our regional needs.
The connection needs a symetrical transport capacity. The reduced 
transport capacity in up-direction is today the biggest block for 
decentralised server installation. To go around, to come more near to 
the backbones, this is was i call "Community Server Space". This seems 
to be the same, what you call "federated-servers". A server space, that 
is organised of a group of people itself with a good connection quality.

I have looked something at FredomBone. Based on Debian it is easy to 
create your server environment. The kernel is always the same. You need 
your hardware related compilation with the specific drivers. And install 
that application, what you need. Therefore, i don't understand for what 
FreedomBone should be. Maybe only to go around domain registration for 
your IP address with the FreedomBone-client function?

Domain Name System

I prefer to use the ccTLD. For you in Ecuador ".ec". Then you can act 
independent from the outside. Then it is your task to find a way with 
the government. It is the responsibility for the government to make it 
easy for the people to install her servers.

The TOR system you can implement over that, if you like. The entry point 
is any server in your neighborhood. But this have nothing to do with the 
connection to your servers. It is only a distribution of data over a net 
of internal routed servers. All servers need her connection to the net 
with her own global static IP address or over a NAT point with the 
server inside of a private net.

I know, that in Ecuador it is not easy to open tha space in the ccTLD 
domain. In most countries in LA this is very difficult. But, i think, we 
should open this space.

Never i had a positive resonance in LA to this point. Also in Venezuela 
it was terrible. Maybe, the people don't see the simplicity from a 
technical point of view. And think, the bureaucratic chicane has a real 
background. But there is nothing. Only chicane.

many greetings, willi


On 14/02/2017 16:16, Quiliro wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 00:20:36 -0300
> willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Quiliro,
>>
>> many thanks for your answer. And i am very happy, that we follow the
>> same goals.
>>
>> Global coordinate system
>>
>> I was a little bit confused in your first explanation. And now i
>> understand. But why you speak about "parallel circles in latitude"?
>> We use only the equator. All vertical (logitudional, in pole
>> direction) ways we define with a turning circle and step on this
>> up/down/around. In practical, we have only two circles. A fixed one
>> and a turned one.
>>
>> Its like the old high precison ship and laboratory globe. This i
>> found in older documents. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz used the same.
>
> I don't understand. You want to keep the same latitude system? I think
> it is inexact. I think the longitude system should be used in South to
> North dimensions and not only for East to West dimensions.
>
>> Community Server Space
>>
>> Based on the backbones today in Latin America, what are the best
>> points for such servers? How i see, the best connections are based on
>> the coastlines or parallel to that. And the interconnection from west
>> to east and reverse?
>>
>> Based on the sea cable map i see two centers in brasil, north and
>> south. And this routes are also connected to the caribbean. And from
>> Fortaleza goes a line to Spain. But i have no map with all backbones
>> and IXPs in Latin America.
>>
>> Yes, i know, this data are very "clandestine". High security. The
>> state don't like, that the people know, what shit they do.
>
> Servers should be in each persons home or office. Nevertheless, maybe
> some people cannot afford them yet. In the meantime, their friends can
> host their accounts. That is why we need federation. I like Freedombone
> with Parabola. Maybe GuixSD will port Freedombone too.
>
>> Global network for free technology
>>
>> "with federated servers"? What is that? You mean combined, connected?
>> Based on the existing backbones? Yes, in this time it will be
>> necessary. Until we find our way to design, construct and fabricate
>> our own components there, where we need it.
>
> Federated servers means servers that have several users that share as if
> they were one server maintaining certain constrainst the users
> define.
>
>> Maybe, this is our biggest problem to create the technical
>> infrastructures that we can do it local/regional.
>
> This is the domain name space. Perhaps we should disregard it totally
> because it is possible to connect as is done with Tor. Then no one can
> have exclusivity on a name.
>
>> Time of the people, the most important ressource, exist enough. Also
>> the financial ressource in the short time view exist enough, if we
>> reduce the big parasitic apparatus from military, paramilitary and
>> buerocratic system.
>>
>> Its more a philosophical problem.
>
> Very true.
>
>> In april i will go back to Europe and there also to Nord Spain:
>> Guifi, cooperative Mondragon and technical university in Barcelona.
>> From Germany i will try to get the connection to Syria and Persia.
>> What i see now, they have the same problems. Always import technical
>> systems or act with venture capitalistic structures like Brasil.
>>
>> But maybe, they go more strong in direction to independence.
>> Sometimes i think, the Latin Americans hate or fear the independence.
>> They like to be slaves from North America and Europe?
>
> I think it is a lack of knowledge and self esteem. If you lack
> undestanding of nature you think that your master is your god and that
> you cannot do anything about it. Perhaps if we understand that it is
> possible to get freedom and the advantages, we will strive for it.
>
>> "Is axixes the plural of axis"? No, axes. English logic.
>
> Yes! I remember now. Thank you.
>