[FSFLA] Ramin Mazaheri/The Saker: Leftists must finally take notice of bitcoins

[willi uebelherr]

Passive BiBo Currency (english and spanish)
http://www.bibocurrency.com/index.php
BIENVENIDOS A DIVISAS BIBO PASIVAS
http://www.bibocurrency.com/index.php/es/

Radix (english only)
https://www.radixdlt.com/

Querido Quiliro,

muchas gracias por su respuesta después de este largo tiempo. Estoy 
totalmente de acuerdo, el núcleo tiene que ser una fuerte conexión con 
los valores reales.

Pero también la moneda de BiBo es más una construcción técnica del 
dinero en su propio entorno. Está más desarrollado para reducir las 
dificultades técnicas con BitCoins y otros. Radix hará lo mismo.

(no encuentro este texto en español)
The Birth of A New Financial Services Industry
By Marc Gauvin, Copyright ©22/5/2014
http://www.bibocurrency.com/index.php/full-intro-2/18-english-root/about/201-faith-in-the-future-or-in-false-promises-of-the-past
"Frankly, I see no better investment given our current shared 
circumstances and I don't see any more rational out for the 1% either, 
so why would they not want to invest in this too? What do they have to 
lose?  They can't lose control because they don't have it,..
...
So maybe they will invest after all in real control one founded in real 
science,  if we show them a stable path in which they are not threatened 
and that preserves their value and provides them a path to migrate to 
better options."

¿Industria de servicios financieros? ¿Derechos de autor? ¿Que es eso? 
Para invitar al 1%?

Su crítica a Bitcoin y Crypto-Currency en general es absolutamente 
correcta. Pero también la divisa de BiBo no es una solución para 
nosotros, creo.

La metodología blockchain que podemos usar, si estamos distanciados y no 
lo conozco personalmente. Puede crear un espacio de confianza.

muchos saludos, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay


Dear Quiliro,

many thanks for your answer after this long time. I agree absolutly, the 
core have to be a strong connection to real values.

But also the BiBo currency is more a technical construction of money in 
his own environment. It is more developed to reduce the technical 
difficulties with BitCoins and other. Radix will do the same.

The Birth of A New Financial Services Industry
By Marc Gauvin, Copyright ©22/5/2014
http://www.bibocurrency.com/index.php/full-intro-2/18-english-root/about/201-faith-in-the-future-or-in-false-promises-of-the-past
"Frankly, I see no better investment given our current shared 
circumstances and I don't see any more rational out for the 1% either, 
so why would they not want to invest in this too? What do they have to 
lose?  They can't lose control because they don't have it,..
...
So maybe they will invest after all in real control one founded in real 
science,  if we show them a stable path in which they are not threatened 
and that preserves their value and provides them a path to migrate to 
better options."

Financial Services Industry? Copyright? What is that? To invite the 1%?

Your critique to bitcoin and crypto-currency in general is absolut 
correct. But also BiBo currency is not a solution for us, i think.

The blockchain methodology we can use, if we are distanced and don't 
know personally. It can create a trustspace.

many greatings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay


-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: [FSFLA] Ramin Mazaheri/The Saker: Leftists must finally 
take notice of bitcoins
Datum: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:26:01 -0500
Von: Quiliro Ordonez Baca <quiliro at riseup.net>

willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net> writes:

> Leftists must finally take notice of – and buy stock in – bitcoins
> Ramin Mazaheri/The Saker, 29.09.2017
> http://thesaker.is/leftists-must-finally-take-notice-of-and-buy-stock-in-bitcoins/
>
> Conceptualising Cuban Socialism
> http://palgrave.typepad.com/yaffe/2017/06/conceptualising-cuban-socialism-.html
>
> Dear friends,
>
> this is not directly theme in FSFla. But it is our background for our
> future. Our strong decentralising and open cooperation. We use it for
> our future in the telecommunication, for our free technology, for our
> cooparating in development of our technical systems in our space of
> our global network for free technology.

Aunque Bitcoin sea una moneda alternativa, pienso que no es una buena
solución. Esta construída como todas las otras monedas, mediante la
especulación. Una moneda sería útil solamente si represente una medida y
no sirve para desviar fondos hacia la especulación. Las monedas
usualmente son especulativas porque no tienen valor real sino
ficticio. Una medida como lo es el gramo, el metro, el segundo y todas
las otras que son definibles, jamás es escasa. Se produce según la
necesidad y, por lo tanto, nunca es objeto de la especulación o es
ficticia sino que es real. Marc Gauvin lo espresó muy bien en su
documento y pagina web sobre monedas BIBO (bounded-in,
bounded-out). Describe cómo las monedas tienen valor real mediante un
respaldo real. Si no tienen respaldo, todas las monedas pierden su
valor.

Saludos,
Quiliro
Fundacion de Software Libre America Latina
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