[FSFLA] Hyperbola: A fully free, stable, secure, simple, lightweight and long-term distribution

[willi uebelherr]

Dear Eder, Quiliro, Tomas, Andre and all,

for the critical questions we don't get a clear answer.

We know, if we split our actions, we lost the power and create clouds. 
Some people like that, but the most not.

In all points of discussion, we can say, a open and free cooperation can 
create better results. Is this only the result of personal egocentric? 
To be itself important?

Mostly, what i know, i can say yes. What you think about, why the 
cooperation in this space is so difficult?

many greetings, willi


Querido Eder, Quiliro, Tomas, Andre y todo,

Para las preguntas críticas no tenemos una respuesta clara.

Sabemos, si dividimos nuestras acciones, perdimos el poder y creamos 
nubes. Algunas personas así, pero la mayoría no.

En todos los puntos de discusión, podemos decir, una cooperación abierta 
y libre puede generar mejores resultados. ¿Es esto sólo el resultado del 
egocéntrico personal? ¿Para ser importante?

Sobre todo, lo que sé, puedo decir que sí. ¿En qué piensas, por qué la 
cooperación en este espacio es tan difícil?

con muchos saludos, willi


Am 25/5/2017 um 13:55 schrieb Eder L. Marques:
>>
>   >> Hey! this sounds good! But the first thing I thought is what
> happened
>   >> with Parabola? How is Hyperbola different from Parabola? I mean,
> what
>   >> is the motivation to create yet another distro instead of
> colaborate
>   >> with an existing (and already FSF approved) one?
> 
>   >It is because of different objectives of the projects and some
> personal problems between devs caused by someone external to Parabola.
> I hope some day they merge. It is very > >probable because of very the
> similar tools they use and how complementary they are.
> 
> Hi team,
> 
> I saw this happening several times, and although I am not a active
> contributor I would like to add my 0.02 to this thread.
> 
> Why do we need yet another gnu-linux[-libre] distribution?
> 
> IMHO, in order for a distro to meet security and privacy standards
> there is a huge effort to be done. Outdated distros, or not so fast
> updated, are a considerable problem. Not saying that
> Hyperbola/Parabola are/will be, but history has tons of examples.
> 
> Why not to use a standard distro and build a 'freedom-filter' on top
> of it? Or alternative packages?
> 
> Every time we create a new distro we make the lives of users harder.
> 
> If Debian can have the linux-libre kernel from FSFLA (or even the use
> of the standard Debian kernel without the blobs), and if we can advise
> the users to use only the main repo as much as they can, what is the
> big issue?
> 
> Because if the answer is that Debian does not respect the 4 freedoms
> that is very inaccurate.
> If is because Debian has (even though is not part of the project) a
> non-free repo, why we don't advise the users about alternatives?
> 
> A good effort, that will take less hours than maintain a distro, is to
> create a map that for each package is maintained at debian non-free
> repo, what would be the alternatives?
> Then, if the alternatives are not in the main/contrib repo, one can
> package it.
> 
> As there is a lot of messages/threads on the list about how to start
> acting, I believe that it would be a great step. :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Eder 'frolic' marques
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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